22 August 2016

Dice Hate Part I


Nic here -

It has been a decent amount of time since we have posted an article and I take full responsibility. The whole tenure process made me insanely busy during the last few months as I attempt to move up the academic ladder.

Anyways...we are back!

Recently, we had the opportunity to review some custom made dice from Nerd-X (our fellow friendly nerds that make awesome x-wing custom stuff from Germany).

They arrived about two weeks ago and we have been play testing the heck out of them!
Transparent Dice from Nerd-X

Not only are they pretty awesome looking, they have a bit of a different feel than the normal FFG dice. That could be because they don't have grimy sweat and tears on them from space battles lost or dirt from being flung onto the floor after rolling blanks. The edges are a bit more rounded than FFG dice,  they are pristine in clarity and without any internal flaws. I wish I had some of the championship transparent dice to compare to but alas I am not one of the 10 across the world that have them.

The white dice are superb and really stand out on the table with all the same qualities as the transparent dice (minus the whole transparency business). The painted symbols are pristine and stand out. I even tried to rub off one of the symbols with a blade and alas no wear and tear! Solid craftsmanship for sure!

Overall we have received tons of positive comments and interest from our local players regarding both sets of dice. In ever growing community of third-party X-Wing accessories, it can be difficult to find this high of quality work. In the end we have had fun playing with our nifty new sets of dice and it has helped some of us stand out (ehhhhhmmmm Jeb) when our flying was a bit on the lacking side.

After spending a few games playing with some folks and receiving some question from our readers, the overall question that was brought up was are the dice legal in tournament play.

In short, no.

However (there is always a however am I right??), it has sparked some interesting debates and thoughts. As such, being the saints that we are we sought out on a brave adventure to see what the X-Wing community thought about the use of non-approved FFG dice. Here are few comments from readers and internet folks who provided some interesting perspectives:

"As a TO I will never allow third party dice. The risk of controversy is to big.
As a player I would request that we use an official set of dice as well."

"The specific dice shown here also has the issue of breaking trademark. The symbols are a direct copy of FFGs which I think is very poor form by the seller/manefacturer"

"They looks great, but pretty sure FFG ruled against the use of third party dice in competitive play as well."

"I use mine at my local, everyone knows they're 3rd party with no complaints."

"My deal with the dice is that it's not allowed in the rules for all levels of play. If you read that and ignore it, what other rules are you willing to break?"

" I don't like them because they are clearly trying to mimic the official ones, so it's begging to have counterfeit dice being sold on third party sites."

"Dice are included in the start boxes and tokens with the ships. It's mostly irritating and confusing with all these 3rd party tokens. I don't think any non-FFG items should be allowed. No 3D printed ships, no proxy cards, no fake dice and no confusing tokens."

"No one is even mentioned the dice app that FFG has put out. According FFG it's a legal way to roll dice. My personal opinion, I would ban it form tournament play over aftermarket dice"

"I am 100% for this. As a tabletop RPG player for 20 years I have amassed a huge dice collection and I know these will be awesome and roll just the same as FFG's. Literally the only reason to not allow them is at a function where FFG could not allow third party merch. I plan to buy and use extensively."

"Aren't the symbols on the dice copywrited? Disney are usually quick on these kind of things..."

"People complaing about 3th dices is the same people who complain about iD. Booooooriiiinnnnng..." (This one was one of my favorites)

"We're all hardwired to see patterns and seek logical explanations, even when things are completely random"

" I think whether or not I allowed my opponent to use them in a tourney situation would depend on whether I knew my opponent."

"Do the dice roll the same results??"

Apparently, custom dice are rather controversial. The comments  and thoughts continue on and on and on and on. Yet it would seem the main themes that emerged were folks liked them but wouldn't allow them for fear of a potentially rigged dice and that FFG forbid them from play.

In case you were curious, here is the exact wording from FFG's most recent tournament regulations:

"Players must use only official Star Wars: X-Wing™ Miniatures Game components in tournament play, with the following exceptions for third-party components:
• Tokens other than obstacles and bombs 
• Range rulers that match the dimensions of an official range ruler or a particular section of an official range ruler
• Movement templates"

"If a player uses the Star Wars™ Dice App, the device with the app must be displayed in full view of both players at all times, and their opponent may request to share the app"

In true non-Frank like fashion (eh? eh?? joke anyone??) FFG rules against the use of them. As such I cannot see much room around that ruling.

So a few general thoughts about this from our perspective (again these are just our perspectives so don't get your panties in a bunch when you disagree with our comments):

(1) Third-party dice are not legal in tournament play but causal play is just fine. As a TO I have faced situations where third-party dice were used in tournament play as long as both players used the dice
(2) The use of hit, crit, eyeball, and evade symbols don't seem like copyright infringement to us (I am honestly not sure you can copyright that?)
(3) If you are not playing with folks you don't know ask before use or offer to share dice (remember sharing is caring)

Overall, third-party tokens, dice, and templates are really works of art (these Nerd-X dice are for sure) and I applaud people who make them and produce them. I for one have zero skill at art and I find it astounding what folks come up, so all you third-party artists keep up the good work and ignore the haters (haters gonna hate y'all).

The last thing I wanted to mention was a question thrown my direction after having some extreme luck with my new dice.

 "Do the dice roll the same results??"

This is a difficult to answer without some science, however, you are in luck as I happen to be one (a neuroscientist to be exact).

As such, in our follow up article we will approach the dice from scientific perspective to answer this burning question.

Hold onto your butts---this will be a fun ride y'all.

Until then stay frosty and please keep bickering and arguing about X-Wing stuff on social media and the like. In fact, feel free to argue with us if you have a different perspective.

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